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Dealing with the Devil
My Mother, Trump and Me

Now available, exclusively on Audible

Why are we the way we are? Who can we become? What stands in our way?

In Dealing with the Devil, Tony Schwartz investigates these sweeping questions by fiercely reckoning with his own life choices, regrets and aspirations. He confronts the shame that arose after he helped craft a persona for Donald Trump in The Art Of The Deal that 30 years later aided in his election as president. He provides a window into understanding our complicated relationship with Trump, and the Trump in each of us. Finally, Schwartz explores how the experience of writing The Art of the Deal prompted him to take an entirely different path in his life.    

Schwartz’s path led to a lifelong investigation of the factors that shape our beliefs and identity, the influence of our early caregivers, and the ways that we can heal and grow by accepting and acknowledging both the best and the worst in ourselves. Schwartz’s story is defined not by his time with Trump, but rather by his quest to become a better human being—as a husband, a father, a grandfather and as the CEO of a company devoted to helping others more skillfully and wisely manage their lives.



Tony Schwartz helped Donald Trump establish his legend by writing The Art of the Deal for him – and then, decades later, watched in horror as Trump sought, then won, the presidency. In this incisive memoir, Schwartz writes unflinchingly of the flaws and fractures in his own psychological makeup to illuminate the ragged cleavages and chasms in Trump’s. Schwartz’s account of how he eventually healed and moved forward is brave and instructive: The nation will have to follow a similar path.


The Washington Post


Tony Schwartz is a New York Times best-selling author and the founder and CEO of The Energy Project, a consulting firm that helps individuals and organizations more skillfully manage their energy in a world of relentlessly rising demand and complexity.

Tony began his career as a journalist and he has been a reporter for the New York Times, a writer for Newsweek, and a contributing writer to New York Magazine and Esquire. Since then, he has also written extensively about leadership, transformation and the modern workplace for The New York Times, the Washington Post, Forbes, and the Harvard Business Review.

Tony is the author of six books, including “The Power of Full Engagement: Managing Energy Not Time” which spent 28  weeks on the New York Times Bestseller List and “The Way We’re Working Isn’t Working,” also a New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestseller.

Tony graduated Phi Betta Kappa from the University of Michigan. He is married to Deborah Pines, a psychoanalyst, and they have two grown daughters and four grandchildren.


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